The Tree - Person Sheet
The Tree - Person Sheet
NameJames William Oliver
Birth3 May 1870, New Plymouth, New Zealand
Death14 Dec 1942, New Plymouth, New Zealand
FatherCharles Oliver (1843-1930)
MotherMartha Allen (1849-1929)
Misc. Notes
Information from Muriel Leo’s (nee Oliver, 1917-1998) Family Tree.

Date of marriage from Graeme Kenyon, whose great grandfather was James George Kenyon b.1861 (whose whose sister, Florence Kenyon, married James William Oliver, son of Charles Oliver Oliver b.1843.

Graeme writes, “By the 1870’s the Kenyon's also had moved out to Grey Bock (to a farm on Frankley Road, not far from Carrington Road). Florence Kenyon was born in 1870 and may well have grown up knowing the Oliver family. I don’t think she would have gone to the same school as James Oliver, but the families were quite likely acquainted. Florence and James Oliver were married in 1893.

In 1899/1890 James and family moved to Bethlehem near Tauranga to start breaking in the land that his father Charles had purchased.

James and Florence sold their block in 1909 and built another house in Bethlehem Road on what was known as the old Maori race course. Some time after 1920, James and Florence sold up and moved back to Taranaki. They lived in Vogeltown, just out of New Plymouth. James became a carpenter.

Graeme Kenyon believes the reason for the move might have been that, “Florence‘s elderly father was still alive, being looked after by Florence‘s spinster sister, Ellen [b. 1864]. Maybe Florence had to help, or wanted to be near the old man in his last years”.

Place of birth and place of death from Cynthia Glover (nee Coleman), whose great-great-grandfather was William Samuel Allen b.1843. (William's sister, Martha Allen, married Charles Oliver, this James’ mother and father).

James is descendant from nobility on his mother's side (Martha nee Allen). Martha's paternal grandfather was Charles Stanhope, 3rd Earl Stanhope, descendant from a long line of families including Stanhope/de Ifferley/de Colleville/Crispin and Pitt.

James’ x22 great-grandfather was William Crispin I, alias "Guillaume de Colleville", who was a companion of William the Conqueror at the Battle of Hastings in 1066. I recommend reading Cynthia Glover’s (nee Coleman) excellent book, “The Allen Family” (first published in 2005), complete with much excellent information and photos.

Photos of engraving in rock on a peak above Mangorei Road, New Plymouth from Greg Oliver in an email dated 24 July 2018. The engraving reads, “J W Oliver 1880”. Greg’s friend Kris found it on a track near the top of the Pouakai Range on the side of a hill that is known as Photographers Peak. Greg writes, “Kris came across it quite by accident, while stopping for a rest”. “James William Oliver... would have been 10 years old at the time he carved his name and year on the rock”. Greg says, “The track is in reasonably good condition and would take approximately 1.5 hours for a reasonably fit person to trek”.

Brian of NZ Olivers found the coordinates embedded in the meta data of the photos (Latitude: -39.2285, Longitude: 174.0373) and put these into the NZ Topomap website. Brian made screenshots of the maps and has made them available - click the ‘camera’ button on the top of this page. The rock is near Graylings Clearing (green tear-drop marker).
FatherJohn Kenyon (1833-)
MotherEllen Ward (1840-)
Marriage31 Jan 1893
ChildrenWilfred Edgar (Died as Infant) (1894-1894)
 Willie (Bill) Verner (1895-1965)
 Allen (Len) Ward (1896-?)
 Clarence (Clan) James (1897-1960)
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