Misc. Notes
Name of “Bert” from Muriel Leo’s (nee Oliver, 1917-1998) Family Tree.
Formal name and year of marriage from Janet (Jan) Kelly, great-granddaughter of Mary Ann Carroll, Mary being a daughter of John and Talitha (nee Hutchings) Carroll/Carrel.
Year of birth (1884) estimated from
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz Papers Past, Wanganui Herald, Volume XXVIII, Issue 8427, 20 December 1894, Page 2 where Herbert was in class Standard 4.
Year and country of birth, from Birth search on New Zealand BDM website in June 2018:
1883/10801. Carrel, Herbert Charles. Mother: Eliza. Father: Charles
Country of marriage from Marriage search on New Zealand BDM website in June 2018:
1914/8896. Bride: Mary Pansy Bingham Hartwell. Groom: Herbert Charles Carrel
Year and country of death from Death search on New Zealand BDM website in June 2018:
1957/19956. Carrel, Herbert Charles, died age 74Y [Year of birth circa 1883 which matches exactly]
Image from Wanganui Collegiate School Past Pupils information from Denise Moody in an email dated 22 October 2017. Denise is the wife of Robin Moody. Robin’s father, Ernest Arthur MOODY, was adopted. He was born “James Campbell Lumsden ROBERTSON”, his biological mother being Gertrude Eleanor ROBERTSON (b.1887), father unknown. Gertrude later married Lionel Ernest Carrel (
b.ca 1885).
Full date of marriage of 3 June 1914 from further searching in July 2024 on BDM Search by incrementally changing the date range for the marriage.
Result from birth search on New Zealand BDM website in July 2024:
1883/10801. Carrel, Herbert Charles. Mother: Eliza. Father: Charles
Full date of birth of 5 August 1883 from further searching in July 2024 on BDM Search by incrementally changing the date range for the birth.
Full date of death of 6 December 1957 from further searching in July 2024 on BDM Search by incrementally changing the date range for the death.