The Tree - Person Sheet
The Tree - Person Sheet
NameAlice Hynes
Birthca 1847, Newry, Down, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom
FatherJames Hynes (ca1820-)
MotherMary Foner (ca1820-)
Misc. Notes
Death Certificate of James Trainer from Raymond Ferguson b. 1933 shows: Last name spelt, “Hinds”.
Last name spelt “Hynes” as per marriage certificate [ex Sarah Ferguson (nee Churton)] of Owen and Alice herself!
Place and approx year of birth from Sarah Ferguson (nee Churton).

Newry and Mourne District in Northern Ireland includes much of the south of County Armagh and the south of County Down and in the year 2010 had a population of approximately 93,400.

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Newspaper article from the Thames Star of 24 November 1883 from Lyn Trainer in papers received by post on 15 February 2019. Lyn is a grandson of James (Jim) Trainer b. 1874:
In the Police Court this morning Mary Hinds applied for an order under the Licensing Act, prohibiting publicans in the Borough and County supplying her sister Alice Trainor, with liquor for 12 months. After hearing evidence the Bench granted the order.

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Newspaper article from the Thames Star of 18 June 1884 from Lyn Trainer in papers received by post on 15 February 2019:
RESIDENT MAGISTRATE'S COURT
THIS DAY.
(Before H. Kenrick, Esq., R.M.)
Correction of County Rolls.
The Court sat to take objections to the County electoral rolls.
E. W. Hollis, County Clerk, produced the rolls and valuation lists for the County, which had been prepared according to laws. J. C. M. Gibson bad been appointed to prepare the necessary rolls. - Mr Miller appeared for the County.
WAIOTAHI.
Re Alice Trainor.—Mr Hill objected that Mrs Tremor's sister was rated for the same property. - Mr Hollis stated that Alice Trainor was rated on the valuation roll. -Objection disallowed.

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Newspaper article from the Thames Star of 28 January 1885 from Lyn Trainer in papers received by post on 15 February 2019:
At the Police Court this morning, before H. Kenrick, Esq., Alice Trainor was fined five shillings and costs, or imprisonment till the rising of the Court, for being drunk and disorderly, and an application for a prohibition order against her for twelve months was granted. This was all the business.

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Newspaper article from the Thames Star of 31 August 1886 from Lyn Trainer in papers received by post on 15 February 2019. The article describes the court hearing on the ownership of the house occupied by Alice Trainor (nee Hynes). Reference to her son Edward Trainor. Alice’s husband, Edward Owen Trainor had died eleven years earlier in Ireland. She was not to marry for the second time until another six years after this court hearing.
POLICE COURT - This Day.
(Before H. C. Lawlor and G. Rayner,
Esq., Js.P.)
ASSAULT.
John Moore was charged, on.the information of Alice Trainor, with assaulting her on the 27th inst., by catching her by the throat and throwing her down.
Mr Miller appeared for the defendant, and Mr Lush for complainant.
Mr Lush explained that a counter-charge had been laid by Moore against Mrs Trainor for assault, but upon the suggestion of Mr Miller he would agree that the cases should be taken together.
Defendant (Moore) pleaded not guilty.
Mr Lush detailed the circumstances which led to the assault, and asked that the defendant should, after the hearing of the evidence, be bound over to keep the peace.
Alice Trainor, complainant, stated that she owned a house in the Waiotahi Greek for the past ten years, and had let it to Mr Foy for twelve months. On Friday afternoon she went to the house in order to have a look at the garden, when Moore rushed out and grasped her by the throat. Witness called out, "Now, Mr Moore, the house is mine, as I paid for it, so you I had better let me alone." He behaved like a raging lion, and witness picked up a piece of spouting which was lying on the ground and struck him with it. He then threw her outside the gate, and threatened to break her neck, going away end leaving her lying on the ground. Had not in any way provoked Moore, who did not give her time to explain why she entered the gate. A portion of her furniture was in the house. - To the Court: Had always been on friendly terms with defendant, but about a week ago he had threatened to throw herself and son in the creek unless she removed some of her things from the house. - To Mr Miller: The assault took place about 5 o'clock last Friday evening. Let the house to Foy about three years ago for £3 10s, but no provision was made as to what he should pay after that time. At the end of twelve months she was to return Foy the money provided he put a chimney in it, but ho did not do so. A man named Diamond and the complainant said they had authority from Foy to sell the house for £5. Was not carrying away a piece of spouting from the house when Moore knocked her down, but she picked it up afterwards in order to strike him in self-defence. Witness was very quiet and did not use any abusive language, but threw a handful of loose soil at him. - To Mr Lush: Was now a total, abstainer, and was sober on the day in question.
James Porteous gate evidence to the effect that he purchased the house for Mrs Trainor, who in turn let it to an old man named Foy. The latter was recently admitted to the Old Men's Home, and it appeared Moore wanted to get possession of the house.
Alfred Trembath stated that he witnessed the quarrel between Mrs Trainor and Moore on Friday last, and saw the latter knock complainant down. Heard someone calling out “murder” but was not aware who was the assailant.
Mary Carter stated that she resided in the Waiotahi Creek, and heard Mrs Trainor call out "murder!" after which and saw Moore threw her on the ground, and catch her by the hair. Defendant seemed to be in a great rage, and when Mrs Trainor got up she threw some mud at him, after which witness noticed her fall down.
Edward Trainor, sworn, stated - He was going borne from his work, when he heard his mother, screaming, and saw Moore throw her down twice. Rushed down the hill to her assistance as quickly as possible, and asked defendant why he had ill-treated her, when he picked up a stone and threatened to Knock witness down with it. His mother was lying on the ground, and was covered with mud.
This concluded the evidence for the prosecution.
Mr Miller addressed the Court on behalf of defendant, contending that the quarrel had arisen inconsequence of some disagreement between the parties regarding the house, which involved a question of title, so that the ease was beyond the jurisdiction of the Bench.
Mr Lush replied to this contention at some length.
Defendant made a statement to the effect that he and Diamond had received verbai authority from Foy to sell the house for £3 10s. Made Mrs Trainor the first offer, when she said the house belonged to her, and he had no business to interfere in the matter. He went over to the house on Friday afternoon, when he noticed that, some firewood had been carried away. A few minutes afterwards he was again in the vicinity, and saw her pulling some spouting from the house. He told her she had no business to take it, when she struck him on the nose with it, and made use of abusive language, in consequence of which witness put her out. She then caught him by the whiskers and held him down. When, however, she saw that witness waa getting the best of the quarrel, she laid down on the ground and rolled into the mud. Caught her by the shoulders, and did not use any unnecessary violence; though they did not go out of the gate arm in arm together. She was not intoxicated, but was calling out, "Murder! Porteous!”
Mark Diamond and H. Brown also gave evidence of an unimportant nature.
The Bench held that the cases involved a question of title, and were therefore beyond their jurisdiction, so that both must be dismissed.
The Court then adjourned.

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Newspaper article from the Thames Star of 2 March 1891 from Lyn Trainer in papers received by post on 15 February 2019:
A woman named Margaret Hynes was to-day charged before E. T. Douglas, Esq., J.P., with having on Saturday night assaulted her sister, Alice Trainor, who resides in the Waiotahi Creek. From the circumstances of the case as detailed by Sergt. Gillies, it appears that Alice Trainor went home to her sister's house about 9.30 p.m. in a state of insobriety, and commenced using abusive language, whereupon the sister (Margaret Hynes) lifted a saucepan and struck her on the forehead, inflicting a slight wound about, an inch long, which penetrated to the bone. Mrs Trainor then went to the police station and gave information of the occurrence, but, as she appeared weak from loss of blood, it was thought advisable to have her removed to the Hospital. The injury, however, is not of a serious nature, and the woman will be able to leave the Hospital this evening. Margaret Hynes was to-day brought up and charged with assault, but on the application of Sergt. Gillies the case was remanded until Wednesday next.

A followup clipping from the Thames Star of 4 March 1891, also from Lyn Trainer in papers received by post on 15 February 2019:
At the Police Court to-day, before C. Haselden and R. T. Douglas, Esqs., Js.P., Margaret Hynes was charged with having assaulted Alice Trainor. Mr Miller, who appeared for the complainant, said that the parties were sisters, and as the assault was not of a serious nature it was decided to withdraw the case, provided no objection was offered by the police. Sergt. Gillies said that as it was a family quarrel, he would leave the matter in the hands of the Court. The Bench allowed the case to be withdrawn upon payment by defendant of £1 14s costs.
Spouses
Birthca 1840, Newry, Down, Northern Ireland
Death25 Dec 1875, Newry, Down, Northern Ireland
OccupationBootmaker
Marriage1 Jan 1863, Newry and Mourne, Northern Ireland
ChildrenEdward (Ted) John (1866-1932)
 James (Jim) (1874-1962)
Birthca 1833, Dublin, Ireland
DeathNew Zealand
Marriage1892, New Zealand
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