First two given names of “Norma Elizabeth”, approxiamate year of birth in NZ as circa 1925, year of death in NZ as 1974, from Jenny Smith (nee Bryce) whose late husband, John Monro Menzies, was the grandson of Telitha Carrel (b. 1885), sister of Maud Oliver (nee Carrel).

Maiden name of “Marshall”, year of birth of “1930”, confirmation of year of death as 1974, from her son, Don Menzies, in emails dated the 5th and 6th of June 2019. Don writes, his mother “past away in 1974 at the age of 44 and I was 7 at that time her youngest son”.