Misc. Notes
Name of “William Cottier” from search of wife, Mary Jane Grylls in December 2020 and added here in February 2022.
Brian of nzolivers was researching a “Cottier” family connection for Simon Perry where Simon wondered whether one of William and Mary Janes’s grandsons, “Eric Cottier” or “Cyril Cottier” could be Simon Perry’s grandfather?
William Cottier m Mary Jane Grylls
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Henry William Cottier
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Eric or Cyril
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Simon’s father
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Simon Perry
This theory for Simon Perry’s grandfather has since been discounted as at July 2022. Eric Cottier or Cyril Cottier
is not Simon Perry’s grandfather. Please read later in this summary.
Simon had been trying to trace a DNA connection to his grandfather who had a son with Nola Gray:
https://nzolivers.com/tree/wc05/wc05_194.htmlSimon is the great-grandson of Ernest Henry GRAY and Frances Maud ANDREWS. He is the grandson of their daughter, “Nola Ailsa Gray”.
Date and place of marriage from screenshot of phone message sent to Brian from Simon Perry on 14 December 2020.
Date and place of birth and death for this William Cottier found in February 2022 from:
https://www.geni.com/people/William-Cottier/6000000018071774535William CottierBirthdate: May 09, 1840
Birthplace: Isle of Man
Death: December 17, 1905 (65)
New Plymouth, New Plymouth District, Taranaki, New Zealand
Immediate Family:
Son of Mr Cottier
Husband of Mary Jane Cottier
Father of
Henry William Cottier; Ella Mabel Bean; William Cottier; Charles Percy Cottier; Emma May Rankin; Sydney Mason Cottier; Richard Grylls Cottier; Jessie Black Cottier and Ivy Gertrude Kebbell
Paragraph on William Cottier found in February 2022 from:
https://collection.pukeariki.com/persons/5031/henry-william-cottierWilliam Cottier, who was a member of the New Plymouth Borough Council for several years, was born in the Isle of Man in 1811 [INCORRECT: SHOULD BE 1840], and went with his parents, in 1852, in the barque “Tancred,” to Australia, where he spent the early part of his life on the goldfields. For some time Mr. Cottier was trading in a small vessel in and about Victoria. In 1863 he was attracted to New Zealand by the Dunstan goldfields in Otago, and was the first to apply for a patent for improvements in certain mining machinery. During the same year, he removed to Taranaki, served throughout the war with the military settlers, and received eighty acres of land for his services. On the corps disbanding, he decided to settle in Taranaki, and for several years conducted the canteens south and north of the town. He then commenced hotel-keeping, and conducted the Taranaki Hotel until 1872, when he took over the Masonic Hotel, and ten years later entered into possession of the Criterion Hotel, which he carried on successfully for fifteen years. He leased the “Criterion” in 1897, and afterwards lived in retirement at “Mona,” on the Carrington Road. Mr. Cottier always took a lively interest in all matters beneficial to the province of Taranaki. He was for many years a director of the New Plymouth Investment Society, and was one of the promoters of the gas company. Mr. Cottier was married, and had eight children, who became known in musical circles as talented performers. He died suddenly, at New Plymouth, on the 13th of December, 1905.
- The Cyclopedia of New Zealand (Taranaki, Hawke's Bay and Wellington Provincial Districts)
Simon Perry wrote in an email dated 13 July 2022 that further research from DNA results show that Eric Cottier or Cyril Cottier
is not Simon Perry’s grandfather. Rather it may be a D’arcy Baden Lobb may be Simon’s gramdfather.
In a follow-up email dated 9 August 2022, Simon Perry wrote that, there is still a “Cottier” family connection. An “Edgar Lobb” married a “Rita Cottier” in 1919. Edgar Lobb and Rita Cottier were the parents of D’arcy Baden Lobb.
Brian has found that this William's son, Henry William Cottier, had nine children, which not only included Eric and Cryil, but also a daughter called, "Rita May Cowling Cottier" who was born in 1899. Brian of nzolivers has yet to research if "Rita May Cowling Cottier" was the person that married “Edgar Lobb”, father of D’arcy Baden Lobb.