Misc. Notes
Name, year of birth, year and place of death, from Janet (Jan) Kelly, great-granddaughter of Mary Ann Carroll, Mary being a daughter of John and Talitha (nee Hutchings) Carroll/Carrel.
Result from Death search on New Zealand BDM website in June 2018:
1945/65709. Carrel, Noel Ernest Robertson, died age 23Y
Note the year 1945 would of been when the death was officially registered, after the end of the World War II.
Month of death (July), confirmation of year of death (1942) from image from Wanganui Collegiate School Past Pupils information from Denise Moody in an email dated 22 October 2017. Denise is the wife of Robin Moody. Robin’s father, Ernest Arthur MOODY, was adopted. He was born “James Campbell Lumsden ROBERTSON”, his biological mother being Gertrude Eleanor ROBERTSON (b.1887), father unknown. Gertrude later married Lionel Ernest Carrel (
b.ca 1885).
Image from Wanganui Collegiate School Past Pupils information from Denise Moody in an email dated 22 October 2017.
Full date of birth and death, place of memorial, from:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/15247066/noel-carrelBIRTH: 22 Nov 1918
DEATH: 27 Jul 1942 (aged 23)
BURIAL: Runnymede Memorial, Englefield Green, Runnymede Borough, Surrey, England
PLOT: Panel 117
MEMORIAL ID: 15247066
Born in Wanganui New Zealand. Parents were Herbert Charles and Mary (nee Hartwell).
Referring to the above, Brian of nzolivers believes Noel’s parents were NOT Herbert Charles and Mary. They were his uncle and aunt. Noel’s parents were Lionel Ernest Carrel and Gertrude Eleanor Lawson. Unfortunately
Noel’s mother died two days after his birth and was brought up by his Carrel grandparent.
Parents confirmed from search on New Zealand BDM website as at 22 November 2018:
Registered 1919/8449. Carrel, Noel Ernest Robertson. Mother: Gertrude Eleanor. Father: Lionel Ernest
Date of birth of 22 November 1918 confirmed from further searching on 22 November 2018 on BDM Search by incrementally changing the date range for the birth.