The Tree - Person Sheet
The Tree - Person Sheet
NameCharles Ernest (Ernest) Oliver
Birth3 Oct 1871, New Plymouth, New Zealand
Death16 Mar 1951, New Plymouth, New Zealand
BurialTe Henui Cemetery, New Plymouth, New Zealand
OccupationFarmer
FatherFrancis Oliver (1840-1926)
MotherElizabeth Ann Langman (1843-1916)
Misc. Notes
Name, date of birth, date of death as 16 Mar 1961, from Muriel Leo’s (nee Oliver, 1917-1998) Family Tree.

Result from birth search on New Zealand BDM website in October 2018:
1871/60. Oliver, Charles Ernest. Mother: Elizabeth Ann. Father: Francis

Full date of birth of 3 October 1871 confirmed from further searching in October 2018 on BDM Search by incrementally changing the date range for the birth.

Year and country of first marriage from search on New Zealand BDM website in October 2018:
1908/6792. Bride: Laura Elizabeth Wood. Groom: Charles Ernest Oliver

Full date of first marriage of 9 September 1908 from further searching in October 2018 on BDM Search by incrementally changing the date range for the marriage.

Result from death search on New Zealand BDM website in October 2018:
1951/18539. Oliver, Charles Ernest, died age 79Y (year of death ten years out)? [Note - year of death not 1961. Year of birth circa 1872 which matches]

Full date of death of 16 March 1951 from further searching in October 2018 on BDM Search by incrementally changing the date range for the death.

Place of birth and death, occupation, from Joshua Keijsers’ Family Tree as at May 2020.
Joshua is the x2 great grandson of Walter and Edith Minnie (nee Oliver) Chatterton through their daughter Beryl Minnie May Chatterton.

New Zealand Electoral Roll - New Plymouth General Roll 1949, found in May 2020:
Oliver, Charles Ernest, 23 Mt Edgecombe St., retired farmer
Oliver, Laura Elizabeth, 23 Mt Edgecombe St., married

Place of burial from the Te Henui Cemetery records page 6, found in May 2020:
11511 OLIVER Charles Ernest 79 yrs 16.3.1951

A 1945 marriage record was found from search on New Zealand BDM website in June 2023:
1945/2928. Bride: Hazel Alice McGinn. Groom: Charles Ernest Oliver

In an email dated 29 December 2023, Winsome Griffin questions whether, "Charles Ernest Oliver remarried on 21 February 1945 to Hazel Alice McGinn". Winsome Griffin (nee Guilford) is the granddaughter of Francis Charles Guilford (1876-1961) whose second wife, Laura Elizabeth Wood, was first married to this Charles Ernest Oliver, grandson of James (1805-1886) and Ruth (nee Batten) Oliver.

In a followup email dated 31 December 2023, Winsome proves there were two Charles Ernest Oliver, our one here, and another who married Hazel Alice McGinn. The second Charles was a labourer in Te Kuiti, New Zealand at the time of marriage. Winsome provided references to the Wills/Probate for each Charles Ernest Oliver. See PDF in media section here for evidence.

THEREFORE, our Charles Ernest Oliver remained married to Laura Elizabeth Wood right up to his death. Laura is sole executrix in Charles’ Will dated 17 January 1939 with Probate 21 March 1951 where Laura has an affidavit to lead grant of Probate to herself as sole executrix SWORN at New Plymouth, New Zealand.

So, this leads us to - who is the second Charles Ernest Oliver and, is he related? Winsome Griffin in the 31 December 2023 email says the second Charles, “was born in 1919 to Charles and Enid Trewhella Oliver”.

Checking the New Zealand BDM website in January 2024, Brian of nzolivers found the date of birth for the second Charles (Reg. 1919/11103) was 25 April 1919. Again, searching the New Zealand BDM website for a marriage of parents Charles and Enid, Brian found Enid’s maiden name was “Watkins” and they married (Reg. 1917/2046) on Christmas Day, 25 January 1917. This sceond Charles died 20 April 1942 accordingly to Waverly Headstone records and Enid remarried in 1948, to Harry Edwin Holtham (Reg. 1948/15779). Further online research in January 2024 shows that the second Charles Ernest Oliver is not related.
Spouses
Birth14 Jan 1887, Westbury, Wiltshire, England
Death11 Mar 1985, New Zealand
FatherWilliam Rigby Wood (ca1847-1923)
MotherMary Anne Mold (ca1847-1922)
Marriage9 Sep 1908, New Zealand
ChildrenJoan Bullot (Adopted) (1918-2011)
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