Misc. Notes
Name of “Ruth Maria Carrel” from Jenny Smith (nee Bryce) whose late husband, John Monro Menzies, was the grandson of Telitha Carrel (b. 1885), sister of Maud Oliver (nee Carrel).
Date of birth and baptised in St Aubin's Church, St Brelades, Jersey, from handwritten note from Brian Carrell, grandson of George Robert Carrel, George being a son of John and Talitha (nee Hutchings) Carroll/Carrel.
Date of “20 January 1878” for first marriage in “Mary Ann and James William Kelly's home in Dunedin”, date and place of death from Janet (Jan) Kelly in an email dated 22 July 2010. Jan is the great-granddaughter of Mary Ann Carroll, Mary being a daughter of John and Talitha (nee Hutchings) Carroll/Carrel.
Jan Kelly has Ruth’s maiden name spelt, “Carroll”.
Date of second marriage of “21 August 1883”, year of third marriage, from Janet (Jan) Kelly and added here in September 2010.
First MarriageMarried John Miller Scott in the First Church Otago in Dunedin on 30th Jan 1878, from Ronald Scott Morrow in an email dated 16 November 2023.
Ron (born circa 1929) is the great-grandson of Robert Scott, brother of husband John Miller Scott.
Result from marriage search on New Zealand BDM website in November 2023:
1878/743. Bride: Ruth Carroll Groom: John Scott
Confirm Ron’s email re date of marriage being
30 January 1878 from further searching in November 2023 on BDM Search by incrementally changing the date range for the marriage.
Second MarriageCountry of second marriage from search on New Zealand BDM website in November 2023:
1883/1810. Bride: Ruth Maria Elizabeth Scott. Groom: Louis Sievers
Different date of second marriage of
31 August 1883 from further searching in November 2023 on BDM Search by incrementally changing the date range for the marriage.
In 'Appendix ii' written by Brian Carrell in his brother’s, (Anthony Carrell), book published in 2019, “John and Talitha Carroll - From Jersey to Wanganui”, Brian Carrell writes, “in January 1886 her second husband, Louis aged 34, died also, at their Victoria Ave home. After running her late husband's drapery on her own for 5 yrs, in 1891 Ruth sold the (now grocery) shop to her brother-in-law James Richardson. A family affair…”.
Third MarriageCountry of marriage from search on New Zealand BDM website in November 2023:
1894/2783. Bride: Ruth Maria Sievers. Groom: Thomas Nicholas
Full date of marriage of 1 September 1894 from further searching in November 2023 on BDM Search by incrementally changing the date range for the marriage.
Carroll/Carrell/Carrel BookJohn and Talitha Carroll - From Jersey to WanganuiThis book, written by Anthony Carrell, was first published in September 2019. Sadly, Anthony passed away less than three years later.
Due to demand, the book became out of print. Brian Oliver of nzolivers, in September 2024, republished it, with the support of Anthony's wife, forwarding working material, research, some digital files, and original papers.
To find out more about the book and ordering information, please see here:
https://nzolivers.com/carrollbook.html